tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345031115753569060.post2852454441505937574..comments2024-03-26T20:17:43.370+13:00Comments on Manaiakalani: Confidently leading online learnersAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16486794203463798461noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345031115753569060.post-34069674815216740632009-07-16T21:10:38.339+12:002009-07-16T21:10:38.339+12:00Yes, yes and yes again to 'Purpose'. Have ...Yes, yes and yes again to 'Purpose'. Have also seen/heard/talked to teachers who have set up blogs wiki's etc because it's the 'thing to do'. The communities section of your post was very useful and not something I'd fully thought through before, thank you.<br />MichaelManurewa Schoolshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11129005043472037339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345031115753569060.post-55097003662172045682009-07-14T23:51:49.990+12:002009-07-14T23:51:49.990+12:00I don't think there is any question that my sc...I don't think there is any question that my school is different than most with what I am allowed to do. Unfortunately, it seems that schools are locking down 2.0 tools more and more. Obviously, many choose to limit students education in favor of safety (of the students, or more likely of the IT infrastructure....)Wm Chamberlainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06692221214846665588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345031115753569060.post-48161154515376984222009-07-14T11:43:09.268+12:002009-07-14T11:43:09.268+12:00@Derek Purpose seems so obvious and a lot of the d...@Derek Purpose seems so obvious and a lot of the discussion following this post (and the previous one) could have helped the school/ teacher who are now facing the negative publicity being attracted by <a href="http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/content/idiot-teachers-fool-interweb#disqus_thread" rel="nofollow">the Whale Oil post</a><br />@Wm Chamberlain<br />Thanks very much for visiting and taking the Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16486794203463798461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345031115753569060.post-88267771051520839322009-07-11T12:57:08.710+12:002009-07-11T12:57:08.710+12:00I personally believe that in terms of BOT and pare...I personally believe that in terms of BOT and parents dialogue around the new curriculum and the relationship of key competencies to the web other educational networks is important. Firstly the competencies and the others as their part in this. Highly related to the vision of curriculum. Connected lifelong learners.Dave Winterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05677993500529992918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345031115753569060.post-36861869606928486722009-07-11T00:58:19.027+12:002009-07-11T00:58:19.027+12:00I am part (leader?) of a go-fer-it community. For ...I am part (leader?) of a go-fer-it community. For whatever reason my community and administration have never shown much concern over how my class is involved in the internet. This is obvious to most when they visit my class blog and notice I stream live video all day during class.<br /><br />I definitely agree that thought needs to be put into how tools should be used in the classroom. I mean allWm Chamberlainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06692221214846665588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345031115753569060.post-79626499846986905012009-07-10T21:33:32.737+12:002009-07-10T21:33:32.737+12:00@Allanah Very good question, but I guess that for ...@Allanah Very good question, but I guess that for people who have been teaching happily at a school prior to Web 2, it would become quite a dilemna 'What to do?' if they found themselves in a place where the community demanded a walled garden. Thinking my next blog should be a question, what would be your bottom line (eLearning)requirements to teach at your next school?....<br />@Dave Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16486794203463798461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345031115753569060.post-20602263415910004832009-07-10T21:22:35.597+12:002009-07-10T21:22:35.597+12:00Excellent post Dorothy, sound, practical advice an...Excellent post Dorothy, sound, practical advice and well articulated. This post, along with your previous one on Web2 polices, provide very useful references to point people to! I totally agree re Purpose - like you, this is top of my list of places to start thinking. It's a waste of time starting if we can't adequately defend and articulate our purpose.Derekwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13819386576409520232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345031115753569060.post-75353714070789602642009-07-10T21:19:44.342+12:002009-07-10T21:19:44.342+12:00I love the process you went through with your staf...I love the process you went through with your staff to check that the purpose of the online spaces they had set up was clear to visitors. We have been talking as a team about some of the links contained in cluster reports to online spaces that you really can't tell what their purpose is or what we are supposed to be looking at. This continues to be such an important area to discuss and Suzie Vesperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12556191935004736209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345031115753569060.post-12750995945251707342009-07-10T20:56:46.227+12:002009-07-10T20:56:46.227+12:00Hi Dorothy yeah sorry for confusion which I will p...Hi Dorothy yeah sorry for confusion which I will probably not remove by this attempt to clarify either lol. What I was trying to say is that perhaps there are some differences in the impact of "walled gardens" on social networking and blogging. With memberships required for elgg in our case and ning for others these seem not limit value in the same way that having a closed blog does. I Dave Winterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05677993500529992918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345031115753569060.post-79000430563849856482009-07-10T19:42:44.921+12:002009-07-10T19:42:44.921+12:00I cannot fathom why teachers would persist with a ...I cannot fathom why teachers would persist with a walled garden type of blog- maybe because the purpose of my blogs is to communicate. It's hard to do the with high fences and barbed wire.Allanah Khttp://allanahk.edublogs.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345031115753569060.post-53019162401892050102009-07-09T23:51:07.351+12:002009-07-09T23:51:07.351+12:00@Dave I think you were saying that you prefer the...@Dave I think you were saying that you prefer the non-walled garden but your students prefer the walls? Did I read that right? I am interested in your comments because when I visited your blog I noticed that a video of the students was published on YouTube about the very event which had restricted blog commenting available. This is where my point about needing to know your community well Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16486794203463798461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345031115753569060.post-74654727225029794562009-07-09T23:33:56.526+12:002009-07-09T23:33:56.526+12:00I feel that blogs will best achieve communicative ...I feel that blogs will best achieve <b>communicative purpose</b> through existing outside of a walled garden. As part of the Microsoft innovative schools project we used live spaces to blog the barrier of having to be a member to comment severely limited the connectedness (sp). This is how we achieve 2 way communication and learning. In the area of social networking I have been pleasantly Dave Winterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05677993500529992918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345031115753569060.post-40051128328611213772009-07-09T23:17:02.821+12:002009-07-09T23:17:02.821+12:00@Lenva Long before Web 2 was around I was saying t...@Lenva Long before Web 2 was around I was saying the word <b> purpose </b> in regards to the flood of advertising material that came into the school each day with offers for the next wonderful software to buy. I bet you were too! I remember talking to staff about how we were NOT going to spend our limited IT budget on wonderful sounding software unless it had a purpose for some learning they wereAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16486794203463798461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345031115753569060.post-68021336090576866642009-07-09T22:31:05.238+12:002009-07-09T22:31:05.238+12:00Oh Dorothy,
What music to my ears. I get the gla...Oh Dorothy,<br />What music to my ears. I get the glazed look now when I rant on about purpose, but I is the most important thing.<br />I was interested to read the way you broke the community down into groups, and in my community (and probably all communities) those three groups are present, and all the in-between groups too, plus the group in blinkers who have no idea what is going on (maybe Lenvahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09990881264817466576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345031115753569060.post-32094130763640500022009-07-09T22:29:47.714+12:002009-07-09T22:29:47.714+12:00Food for thought indeed. I have been planning a p...Food for thought indeed. I have been planning a presentation on using voice thread in the classroom and I realise now that I hadn't thought through these aspects. Of course community and purpose need to be considered. Maybe I'll start with the learning - as if I was presenting a proposal to a BOT.room2https://www.blogger.com/profile/12009684674828554149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345031115753569060.post-59953616343108643772009-07-09T22:25:09.658+12:002009-07-09T22:25:09.658+12:00This comment has been removed by the author.Lenvahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09990881264817466576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5345031115753569060.post-53916276184807235582009-07-09T22:21:25.506+12:002009-07-09T22:21:25.506+12:00Hey Dorothy,
What a well timed blog.
I have been h...Hey Dorothy,<br />What a well timed blog.<br />I have been having similar thoughts.<br />I really like the idea of presenting the purpose of an online presence using web 2 tools with the BOT.<br />Thank youUlimasaohttp://www.ulimasao.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com